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Renée M's avatar

And what "civilized" society orchestrates, pays for, and condones such acts? Happens easily in a society based on indifference to the "other." The U.S. has been here many times before, and without serious self reflection, honesty, and commitment to justice and equality for revery human being, we'll be here again.

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

Frantz Rantz's avatar

I keep asking this.

ICE was fully staffed with trained and experienced agents and supervisors during all the previous administrations and did not behave like this.

So we know they know how it's supposed to be done.

How did they get instructed, motivated, and deployed and apparently ordered to use these tactics virtually overnight post inauguration?

How and why are they now suddenly so willing to act in this obviously extralegal manner?

We know that the orders come from the top, Miller, Noem, and Homan specifically, but how did they completely change the entire agency from top to bottom instantly without a complete restaffing?

Obviously recruiting is ongoing, and now they are hiring 10,000s more, but training up new hires takes a least a year.

I've seen rumours of contracting out enforcement to bounty hunters, local off duty police, even the various militias and J6 types. Some of the videos seem to be these types, but no corroboration.

The uniformed and armed and suiyed up in full tactical gear troops launching military like assaults we see swarming protesters and especially in the recent Chicago apartment raid, are clearly deeply trained as well as completely willing to kick down doors and indiscriminately haul people out, zip tie and detain them with no qualms.

They clearly relish acting out their racist and xenophobic fantasies. Some probably truly believe they are protecting their country from invaders and 'bad guys.' Some have just been waiting to be set loose to be cruel and violent for whatever reasons. But its now virtually 100% plus other agencies, ATF, FBI, US Marshalls.

They have no excuse that they don't know what they're doing is violating all kinds of norms, ethics and laws, including core constitutional rights, not to mention common human decency.

That didn't happen overnight. It just doesn't make sense or seem possible to completely alter the ethics, training, and actions of 10,000s of personnel overnight.

I hope some investigative journalists will look into this. There has to be some accessible records, despite none of these 'people' likely willing to offer any information.

Carol Taylor Boyd's avatar

ICE is going after the poor and defenseless because they are poor and defenseless, making them even poorer and more vulnerable. This is the greatest NATIONAL DISGRACE ever!

My friend and I registered for the NO KINGS RALLY at the Colorado State Capital on October 18th. I hope and pray these rallies break all previous records for attendance. We must show ourselves and the world that most Americans are decent people. We must show the orange blight's regime and Stephen Miller in particular that we are standing up for every persons Civil, Human and Constitutional RIGHTS.

Please find a rally near you and attend. We're both in our 70s. We have to plan carefully. We probably won't stay all day. But it's so important to visibly stand up to this coup.

Joanne Steacie's avatar

Yes, I forgot to say Thank you Dissent for showing us the horror of what immigrants or people of color must go through. Real life. Thanks for your hard work.

Gail's avatar

Will it be possible to track ICE agents through payments made to them by the administration? HOPE

Michfam's avatar

These are acts of terrorism. Ice agents must be held accountable. Governor, you need to lock up these thugs now. They are assaulting peaceful people with no legal basis. They are unidentifiable, they are using lethal force. Arrest, detain, convict at the state level. Issue axwarrant for bondi, hegs, noem, leavitt. She is spreading false information and inflaming the situation.

wilter downs's avatar

Showing up to court or appointments is a good way to get deported. People's best bet is to be under the radar and hope that this ends.

They want to ensure America remains a white majority country.

VEE LAVALLEE's avatar

I know you want to help Dissent but haven't you noticed that people are shocked, disbelieving and thats it! Nobody wants to stick their necks out, especially nobody with the power. Like the opposition party. So what else can you do? People have now become immune to the violence, just like they did in Germany. Until it was too late to act.

Sarah Reynolds's avatar

🤬💩💩💩💩💩the enemy within must be stopped!

Elham Sarikhani's avatar

This one hit me like a brick.

There’s no poetry that makes this better, no folklore to soften it. What you’re describing is terror dressed up as policy. It’s the sound of glass breaking where a lullaby should be. And that’s the part that sits in my throat, a country where a newborn’s first memory of state power is its mother’s body shielding him from a gun.

You’re right to call it what it is. Disappearance. Occupation. A machine that’s working exactly as it was designed. The cruelty isn’t a glitch; it’s the proof of concept. People talk about “the border” like it’s some distant line, but your story makes it clear: the border is wherever the SUVs decide to stop.

What you’re doing here, telling this story, is what pushes back against erasure. Governments and corporations bank on silence; on our scrolling past. The antidote is a hundred small acts of witness, refusal, and solidarity. Neighbors who don’t look away. Strangers who write down badge numbers. Local groups that get people lawyers, rides, diapers.

You’ve already done the first part, you’ve dragged the truth into daylight. That’s no small thing. The rest of us have to decide whether we’ll keep it there. Because if we don’t, the glittering glass in that backseat becomes just another decoration in a museum of lies. And I’m not interested in living in that museum.

Janis Pearson's avatar

And there are human beings who still support this madman.

Donovan Marley's avatar

Trump’s racist invasions of American cities have nothing to do with stopping crime. Trump’s intent: execute a nationwide coup to replace the USA’s Constitutional Republic with a Fascist, Christian-Nationalist, White-Supremacist Kleptocracy to be ruled in perpetuity by the Trump Family Crime Syndicate.

Donald Trump began his coup by attempting to prevent a joint session of Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. When his insurrection failed, he pardoned the violent criminals who—in response to his call—had attacked the 1/6/2021 Joint Session of Congress.

Some of these vicious criminals are now ICE-deployed bounty hunters—a Gestapo-like private police force directed by Donald Trump to ignore the law, to ignore every individual’s due-process rights, to kidnap People of Color and make them disappear before the Courts can learn of their existence.

Trump has appointed leaders of his failed 1/6/2021 Insurrection to major posts in his criminal administration. His MAGA base includes an irretrievably corrupted Supreme Court; it includes criminals serving in the President’s Cabinet, hundreds of corrupt Republican Members of Congress, thousands of corrupt Republican office-holders, and millions of MAGA Neo-Nazis who hate People-of-Color.

Led by the lifelong racist Donald Trump, these MAGA racists are working with Trump to end America’s Constitutional Republic.

The overwhelming majority of Americans reject Trump, his MAGAts, the crimes they have committed, and the crimes they continue to commit. This majority will not rest until Trump is impeached, removed from office, prosecuted, convicted, and thrown into prison.

Lorraine Tesina's avatar

I can't swing the $, but I just stood up to my husband.

Thank yoy

Mariel Schooff's avatar

Why are the Generals allowing this?