Well written and I would only add that the often overlooked Roma Sinti (gypsies) actually lost more people per capita than the Jewish population, are seldom mentioned in works on the WW2 genocide and forbidden to participate in holocaust remembrance services, not allowed participation in holocaust museums and we've asked, pleaded and begged for inclusion incessantly and been denied just as incessantly.
This is so super heavy but until we in the USA face the sins of our past, reoent and make changes, we are doomed to repeat the whole sinful, cruel cycle. Ugggg
It's true that we got a sanitized version of American history in school and in our MSM. However, this well-researched & written article slants the truth in the other direction and fails to point out American strategy.
America is diverse. Diverse in race, belief and thought. Notice how the chief American Nazi propagandists (Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, etc.) were oligarchs? Oligarchs always prefer fascism. Notice how America DID enter the war on the right side and we defeated the Axis Nazis? That's because the majority of Americans, led by FDR, did NOT find fascism appealing. We were late entering the war because FDR first had to quell our own Nazis to some degree before he could act directly against Hitler.
Along those lines is my second point: historical sanitation as a strategy. Yes, we're all big boys and girls and SHOULD be able to handle the truth, but in fact folks are resistant to changing their mind and often process information irrationally. Repeating a narrative becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. This fact can be used for evil, like the Kremlin, it's current vassal state in D.C. and Faux News illustrate. OR it can be used for good, like some have done to convince Americans that we should aspire to be great people. The harm comes from silencing the full picture AND from overemphasizing the bad things Americans have done. Different individuals can handle different amounts of the complete picture. Thus, public figures need to always try to strike an effective balance between full disclosure in a short time (basically impossible) and demoralizing their audience. Words matter.
Keep doing what you're doing @Dissent in Bloom. We ❤️ you.
Excellent article. It explains why Trump has so much support. The descendants and believers of those programs are still around. Before Trump they lurk in darkness now they are out in the open. We need to be aware of what is going on.
The History Books Lied: The Century-Old Roots of America’s Nazi Problem
In school, we are taught a sanitized version of America. We are taught that America has always been the good guy. The freedom fighter. The country that steps in when things get bad because freedom matters to us more than anything. If you do not stand for freedom, you are not an American.
I first started reading snippets of Hitler taking his cues from the US a couple of weeks ago. Up to that point I had lived my life in total ignorance of these horrors. Of course, I knew about our hateful treatment of the native people we trampled over when European settlers first arrived here, but had no idea about any of this. Thank you so much for being such a window to the truth, even when that truth is hard to see.
Yes, it wasn't just "one guy" it was the entire system.
Decades, centuries even, of Christian indoctrination.
And yes, the Nazi's were/are Christians !
The first and only agreement the Vatican ever signed in all it's history is whith the Nazis, called the "Reichskonkordat"
And it wasn't only Germany, it was all of Europe. Since all of Europe was and is Christian.
And anyone (usually Christians) dispute the absolute fact that the Nazis are Christian....
There are numerous quotes and speeches from the Nazi leaders citing the Bible, numerous photos of Nazi soldiers and the Nazi leadership entering and leaving church, praying in church etc.
And of course, let the Christian answer this....
World War 2 (1940-1945)
What religion was Germany (and Europe) before 1940 ?
And what religion is Germany (and Europe) after 1945 ?
My God. I've been slowly putting these pieces together throughout my life.
But I've been doing it from the perspective of a bullying and abuse survivor, examining and realizing just how foundational abuse is to our entire culture, from the moment the Colonies were founded...
All the mechanisms in place to "keep people down" - the inculcation of prejudice and tribalism [misogyny, racism, religion-related bigotry*, even seemingly trite things like sports rivalries - not so trivial when you remember all the sports riots in this country, sports hooliganism abroad, and the Soccer War[!]]
All the mechanisms in place to exploit people and drain their resources - greedflation far outpacing salary increases for workers & COLA increases for retirees; venture capital consolidating monopolies in broad daylight to gouge us for everything from housing to human and animal healthcare; "insurance" that takes people's money, then punishes them for trying to utilize it through denial of services or policy termination; exploitation of workers as the norm, with labor laws that aren't enforced, labor "watchdogs" that are fundamentally corrupt and tilt the playing field towards management...
... all of this blatantly, flagrantly abusive.
And Mark Twain, of all people, since I read his essay "To The Person Sitting In Darkness" at the ripe old age of sixteen, with Vietnam and Wounded Knee fresh in my mind, and realized even then that the things he described us doing abroad were also things we were doing to our children, our poor, all of our marginalized, at home...
You've put history behind it that I hadn't seen, because I've been looking at laws and psychology, marketing and manipulation, and fitting events into that context.
Thank you.
***********
*and let us be clear: "Fundamentalist extremism" isn't limited to megachurch MAGAs and ultraconservatives in other faiths; there are atheists here and there** who can give the late Jerry Falwell a run for his money - in reverse. It's about the use of faith, or of the lack of faith, as a justification for hatred, rather than the faith itself or lack thereof.
**Not all, not even most, just a few obstreperous brats of varying ages, thank Primitive-and-outmoded-Concept-On-A-Crutch***.
***credit to the late Terry Pratchett, may his tribe increase.
Your research is impeccable. Most of this I’ve already known in a general sense just due to my curiosity inspired by my mom when I was a child watching old films of Hitler on PBS which she would do her best to translate for me. This began my interest in history and how we got to where we are. For no reason other than my own curiosity I learned most of this on my own, but again I must thank you. The detail and proof you have provided explains everything I’ve known and understood in the terms that created me as a person of curiosity.
I recall the Nazi Bund in the United States with this culminating in a Nazi rally filling Madison Square Garden in NYC. We even had our own Nazi Youth all over certain neighborhoods throughout our country. This culminated in the creation of a dedicated neighborhood Yaphank in Long Island supported by the Nazi Bund which still exists today. There are Streets named after the hierarchy of the German high command. Streets were and still are named after Hitler, Gobbles, Goehring, Himmler etc. The worst of this was Camp Sigfried. This is where our children from all over the United States came to be indoctrinated in Nazi propaganda. This at the time sparked the America First movement of isolation and not getting involved in any foreign wars. This was led by none other than Charles Lindberg (possible candidate for president). He even was the highlighted speaker at the Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. I could go on and on, but your article pretty much says it all. We are not paranoid. This conspiracy actually exist as stated in your incredibly succinct and thoroughly researched article. I can’t thank you enough for reigniting my desire to learn and disseminate that information. Myself and a number of friends I met at the last Fuck Ice rally are starting our own ANTIFA group in the Atlantic City area and these are the kind of stories that can animate everyone to protect our precious immigrants. In my opinion, I think this will be a time due to our ability to communicate and document via modern technology that we finally have a shot at defeating this entire diseased notion of white supremacy. I am grateful for your writing, which is why I am a supporter. I beg you to please not stop as you are inspiring more people to gather together and fight this awful scourge.
As a side note, please forgive a lack of grammar skills as I am a high school grad and not a good one at that. My studies were the business of music as I was once a professional musician. With that in mind I appreciate your indulgence.
Did not know any of these things. Good article.
Well written and I would only add that the often overlooked Roma Sinti (gypsies) actually lost more people per capita than the Jewish population, are seldom mentioned in works on the WW2 genocide and forbidden to participate in holocaust remembrance services, not allowed participation in holocaust museums and we've asked, pleaded and begged for inclusion incessantly and been denied just as incessantly.
This is so super heavy but until we in the USA face the sins of our past, reoent and make changes, we are doomed to repeat the whole sinful, cruel cycle. Ugggg
https://open.substack.com/pub/kenklippenstein/p/exclusive-ice-masks-up-in-more-ways?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=35kv7p
Trump regime's plan to win elections. Call all your represenatives and keep calling them to say, "No to the bill!"
https://open.substack.com/pub/thedingodave/p/house-republican-leadership-is-racing?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=6kimrv
Copy and share.
It's true that we got a sanitized version of American history in school and in our MSM. However, this well-researched & written article slants the truth in the other direction and fails to point out American strategy.
America is diverse. Diverse in race, belief and thought. Notice how the chief American Nazi propagandists (Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, etc.) were oligarchs? Oligarchs always prefer fascism. Notice how America DID enter the war on the right side and we defeated the Axis Nazis? That's because the majority of Americans, led by FDR, did NOT find fascism appealing. We were late entering the war because FDR first had to quell our own Nazis to some degree before he could act directly against Hitler.
Along those lines is my second point: historical sanitation as a strategy. Yes, we're all big boys and girls and SHOULD be able to handle the truth, but in fact folks are resistant to changing their mind and often process information irrationally. Repeating a narrative becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. This fact can be used for evil, like the Kremlin, it's current vassal state in D.C. and Faux News illustrate. OR it can be used for good, like some have done to convince Americans that we should aspire to be great people. The harm comes from silencing the full picture AND from overemphasizing the bad things Americans have done. Different individuals can handle different amounts of the complete picture. Thus, public figures need to always try to strike an effective balance between full disclosure in a short time (basically impossible) and demoralizing their audience. Words matter.
Keep doing what you're doing @Dissent in Bloom. We ❤️ you.
We have to fight.
https://substack.com/@thelefthook/note/p-187588273?r=ca1y&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
This is an amazing and enlightening article. Bravo
What an eye opener!! Thank you for continuing to connect the dots.
Excellent article. It explains why Trump has so much support. The descendants and believers of those programs are still around. Before Trump they lurk in darkness now they are out in the open. We need to be aware of what is going on.
The History Books Lied: The Century-Old Roots of America’s Nazi Problem
In school, we are taught a sanitized version of America. We are taught that America has always been the good guy. The freedom fighter. The country that steps in when things get bad because freedom matters to us more than anything. If you do not stand for freedom, you are not an American.
I first started reading snippets of Hitler taking his cues from the US a couple of weeks ago. Up to that point I had lived my life in total ignorance of these horrors. Of course, I knew about our hateful treatment of the native people we trampled over when European settlers first arrived here, but had no idea about any of this. Thank you so much for being such a window to the truth, even when that truth is hard to see.
Same here.
Yes, it wasn't just "one guy" it was the entire system.
Decades, centuries even, of Christian indoctrination.
And yes, the Nazi's were/are Christians !
The first and only agreement the Vatican ever signed in all it's history is whith the Nazis, called the "Reichskonkordat"
And it wasn't only Germany, it was all of Europe. Since all of Europe was and is Christian.
And anyone (usually Christians) dispute the absolute fact that the Nazis are Christian....
There are numerous quotes and speeches from the Nazi leaders citing the Bible, numerous photos of Nazi soldiers and the Nazi leadership entering and leaving church, praying in church etc.
And of course, let the Christian answer this....
World War 2 (1940-1945)
What religion was Germany (and Europe) before 1940 ?
And what religion is Germany (and Europe) after 1945 ?
So don't tell me they ain't Christian !!!
My God. I've been slowly putting these pieces together throughout my life.
But I've been doing it from the perspective of a bullying and abuse survivor, examining and realizing just how foundational abuse is to our entire culture, from the moment the Colonies were founded...
All the mechanisms in place to "keep people down" - the inculcation of prejudice and tribalism [misogyny, racism, religion-related bigotry*, even seemingly trite things like sports rivalries - not so trivial when you remember all the sports riots in this country, sports hooliganism abroad, and the Soccer War[!]]
All the mechanisms in place to exploit people and drain their resources - greedflation far outpacing salary increases for workers & COLA increases for retirees; venture capital consolidating monopolies in broad daylight to gouge us for everything from housing to human and animal healthcare; "insurance" that takes people's money, then punishes them for trying to utilize it through denial of services or policy termination; exploitation of workers as the norm, with labor laws that aren't enforced, labor "watchdogs" that are fundamentally corrupt and tilt the playing field towards management...
... all of this blatantly, flagrantly abusive.
And Mark Twain, of all people, since I read his essay "To The Person Sitting In Darkness" at the ripe old age of sixteen, with Vietnam and Wounded Knee fresh in my mind, and realized even then that the things he described us doing abroad were also things we were doing to our children, our poor, all of our marginalized, at home...
You've put history behind it that I hadn't seen, because I've been looking at laws and psychology, marketing and manipulation, and fitting events into that context.
Thank you.
***********
*and let us be clear: "Fundamentalist extremism" isn't limited to megachurch MAGAs and ultraconservatives in other faiths; there are atheists here and there** who can give the late Jerry Falwell a run for his money - in reverse. It's about the use of faith, or of the lack of faith, as a justification for hatred, rather than the faith itself or lack thereof.
**Not all, not even most, just a few obstreperous brats of varying ages, thank Primitive-and-outmoded-Concept-On-A-Crutch***.
***credit to the late Terry Pratchett, may his tribe increase.
Thank you. I studied the holocaust and have been trying to tell people this. Now I can share this over and over.
Your research is impeccable. Most of this I’ve already known in a general sense just due to my curiosity inspired by my mom when I was a child watching old films of Hitler on PBS which she would do her best to translate for me. This began my interest in history and how we got to where we are. For no reason other than my own curiosity I learned most of this on my own, but again I must thank you. The detail and proof you have provided explains everything I’ve known and understood in the terms that created me as a person of curiosity.
I recall the Nazi Bund in the United States with this culminating in a Nazi rally filling Madison Square Garden in NYC. We even had our own Nazi Youth all over certain neighborhoods throughout our country. This culminated in the creation of a dedicated neighborhood Yaphank in Long Island supported by the Nazi Bund which still exists today. There are Streets named after the hierarchy of the German high command. Streets were and still are named after Hitler, Gobbles, Goehring, Himmler etc. The worst of this was Camp Sigfried. This is where our children from all over the United States came to be indoctrinated in Nazi propaganda. This at the time sparked the America First movement of isolation and not getting involved in any foreign wars. This was led by none other than Charles Lindberg (possible candidate for president). He even was the highlighted speaker at the Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. I could go on and on, but your article pretty much says it all. We are not paranoid. This conspiracy actually exist as stated in your incredibly succinct and thoroughly researched article. I can’t thank you enough for reigniting my desire to learn and disseminate that information. Myself and a number of friends I met at the last Fuck Ice rally are starting our own ANTIFA group in the Atlantic City area and these are the kind of stories that can animate everyone to protect our precious immigrants. In my opinion, I think this will be a time due to our ability to communicate and document via modern technology that we finally have a shot at defeating this entire diseased notion of white supremacy. I am grateful for your writing, which is why I am a supporter. I beg you to please not stop as you are inspiring more people to gather together and fight this awful scourge.
As a side note, please forgive a lack of grammar skills as I am a high school grad and not a good one at that. My studies were the business of music as I was once a professional musician. With that in mind I appreciate your indulgence.