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Sherry Bellamy's avatar

Is there anyone who still thinks calling these monsters NAZIs is an exaggeration?

They are trying to see what we will tolerate before we rise up against them.

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Debra's avatar

And when we finally do rise up, he’ll declare martial law. This is their goal.

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Katherine's avatar

I’m doing it anyway! Make good trouble.

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What what's avatar

How do you force martial law on 350 million ppl lol

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Angie's avatar

It would reportedly take 20 million service people. We have 400,000, a great deal of whom would not (I hope) be willing to mobilize against their countrymen.

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Wayne Shaw's avatar

That's why we need a general strike.

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Martin Björnsson's avatar

You need to learn to self-organize, quick, to respond fast in numbers and coordinate efforts. And select and spread the IMPORTANT info in a special channel so it doesnt drown. Media is useless for that. But its easy to set up new ones, and some networks exist already - the park service, indivisible, 50501...

... You are all anarchist liberal at heart, and thats great - but authoritarians are great at one thing, organization. And they have been doing it for a long time.

And if you liberals dont do it, some authoritarian left will be needed to get to done. :o

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Dycie's avatar

When he pushes the people far enough, then he will enforce martial law, that is the ultimate plan of this administration and their backers. Once martial law is enforced, ALL elections will legally be cancelled, they have no intention of allowing the American people to vote them out of office. This is exactly what they have been working towards for the past decade.

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Dycie's avatar

Exactly their plan all along, invoking martial law cancels ALL elections. They will never allow the American people to vote them out.

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Vivian Barro's avatar

That’s also what I’ve heard that is being planned. I guess it will be time for a civil war?

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Hannah Throckmorton's avatar

That’s ok. Let him try. The military is taught to never follow illegal OR IMMORAL orders. And, the American military KNOWS that they can’t maintain martial law, if we don’t submit. We walk out of our houses, just like they did in South Korea recently. No army in the world can hold America. We are too big and too many. Also, most of the vets will be in our camp. Let’s go make good trouble

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Mamie's avatar

What the military is taught is very different from what they see and hear blaring from Fox Noise in all public spaces. I wouldn’t bet on whether military teaching or right-wing indoctrination is followed.

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Martin Björnsson's avatar

Yes. Its like the ending of V for vendetta. Or Solidarity union in Poland. Be prepared for that option. But they ARE going to be prepared to it too, and knowing that they will fail is not the same as not trying it anyway - so try to build as much bridges as you can even before it gets that far. Actually easier than after they have more blood on their hands and *have* to tell themselves it was necessary.

So - approach them with a white flag, to talk and get something across - explaining the situation, with fucking Machiavelli as a loaded sixshooter in one hand (you WILL lose if we fight! - we are every bit as determined as you, and your side have always lost earlier ) and Jesus in the other. (But we get now that you feel betrayed, that the MAGA America is in awful shape and we cant have that, and that the old top layer of leadership in the democratic party is rotten and need to go, as well as big money from politics at all and any closed organisation that allows for an eternal "deep state". And that they and we will have to be addressing you directly from now on.

On the other hand you HAVE TO read more news than Fox! Goddamnit! Check here what this ex-magan realised that it does to you:

leavingmaga.org

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Erika's avatar

I’ve been saying this since his first term. He wants nothing more than to be a dictator and be a permanently placed enemy to his own country.

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Don Hawkins's avatar

Fook martial law, “give me liberty or give me death.”

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Earlene Millier's avatar

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Many in the military have drunk the right wing Kool-Aid. There has been some scary reporting about this recently.

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Jeanne mattson's avatar

So thought the reg Germans in Germany when Hitler took over. The military was family and friends as well. Didn't help them.

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EFS's avatar

I call them sadists. Not that the terms are mutually exclusive.

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Barbara Moya's avatar

I believe this is part of the package trump signed before he got elected (which I believe was fraudulent) that he would support all dictators to the max after his was sworn in as president.

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Patrice Curedale's avatar

when are we rising? After they start putting Citizens on the plan to nowhere? Well, that could be next week. What’s holding up the uprising?

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Katherine's avatar

Do you have a plan? I don’t. I know we can’t wait for somebody to act. I guess I could go into town and protest every day at social security. We don’t have an immigration office. I guess that’s what I will do, protest at any federal office. Maybe others should share their plan. Would be great not to be alone.

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Alexandru Constantin's avatar

Sherry you’re going to rise up, as in fight, and die, kill, and be killed, against your own country men, against your neighbors, against even your own family, in defense of foreigners, rapists, murderers, and criminals? Oh my bad Sherry, you mean you yourself aren’t going to do shit, you are going to prod your husbands, brothers, and sons to die.

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Sherry Bellamy's avatar

I just blocked that troll. He has nothing of value to say.

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Alex | A. R. Eldridge's avatar

It’s the play book. Just yesterday Trump was recorded asking for more prisons for “the homegrowns.” This will get worse before it gets better.

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CatZ's avatar

Thanks for letting us know you don’t know what ad hominem means. Regardless of who is reporting it, the words came directly out of Trump’s mouth. Trump admitted Garcia was deported in error and once the courts came down, backpedaled and made up lies.

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Jim's avatar

GESTAPO! Use this term whenever applicable! It is exactly as it was in Nazi Germany!

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Jim's avatar

What would you call it comrade Laggy? Blind date, maybe!

Hope I didn’t touch that nerve you reserve for

🫶Krasnov🫶

🖕🖕🖕🖕

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Laggy's avatar

You’re retarded

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Jim's avatar

That won’t get you into Harvard, either!

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Laggy's avatar

You’re making even less sense than you’re original statement

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

1. Only those who get their only "information" from Faux Newspeak.

2. They will soon enough find out.

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Chris Bystroff's avatar

rise up

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gerkenstein's avatar

Youre an illegal?

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Megan Verno, CMHC's avatar

They are Christo-fascists. They are following orders from an authoritarian dictator/cult leader. Nazis isn’t the correct term, because this isn’t Germany 1930. But it is fascism and it is fueled by Christian right.

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Sherry Bellamy's avatar

I agree with that, but people understand the descriptive “Nazi” better than Christo-fascist - it’s a visceral and immediate comprehension of the threat. The MAGA cult calls liberals fascists,so the real meaning of the term is distorted.

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Jim's avatar

A.R., don’t bother with anything factual. DE is nothing but AKunt BOT with an insatiable appetite to suck Komrade Laggy’s balls - on the Kremlin’s steps. Reality has no place in bot vocabulary as evidenced by the amount of hate bullshit flowing from all portals.

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Tamara - Civic Armor's avatar

This is beyond horrific . Our government, our “leaders” are tyrants without a care for the law, the constitution or their fellow human beings!

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The Rozweiler's avatar

It is truly horrific Tamara. How on earth does anyone deal with this? Innocent people locked away for life FOR NOTHING!! I cannot even imagine how they must be feeling, no contact with anyone or knowing if anything is happening to effect their release. It’s obvious that with the Orange Blob in charge they will never be released but he won’t be there forever.

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Tamara - Civic Armor's avatar

I agree. I’m struggling with the fact that people aren’t rioting in the streets - and I don’t mean planned protests. It’s incredibly frustrating to me that life is seemingly going on like always for a good percentage of society. I can’t even respond to messenger right now, as my friends in other states are living as if our democracy, our life as we know it, isn’t being destroyed and human beings aren’t being used as sacrificial lambs for Trump to set up a pathway to disappear his personal enemies! I wrote a long rant about that early this morning, and in it I explained that I’m done apologizing for sounding like a conspiracy theorist (that is very much something I’m against). The facts and the patterns of behavior all line up.

I had a passionate debate with a good friend a few weeks ago. He is a Harris supporter, but he was laughing that I was so worked up. His opinion was that the infighting would cause the admin to self implode and that we need to just sit back and let it happen and then clean up the mess. My position was that they are in a race to see how much they can destroy, re-establish under their terms, and create a dictatorship before they get stopped - at which point, so much damage will be done and it will be extremely difficult to overturn a dictatorship when our resources and rights have been taken from us.

And here we are, three weeks later.

We are the United States of America, damn it - we DON’T send people to foreign concentration camp prisons, we don’t determine a person’s fate without due process and we live by the constitution, not the whim of a madman and his racist, bigoted, misogynistic, xenophobic cult members!

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Lisa J 💜🏳️‍🌈's avatar

The people behind the Heritage Foundation have wanted a Constitutional Convention for quite awhile (at least since Citizens United). Since they now pretty much own the majority of the authors of a new governing document, destroying the current one is part of the plan. They want another one, that they direct, that limits the power of the regular people to those of being governed. Get rid of worker protections, unions, overtime, child labor laws… they pine for the good old days of the early Industrial Revolution.

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The Rozweiler's avatar

I know exactly how you feel. Saw a MAGA farmer being interviewed on TV earlier and he was saying, you got to give him time, it’ll all be OK. I was yelling at the TV interviewer saying, ask him if he’s OK with innocent people being sent to a gulag?!! My sister is the same as your friend. She rolls her eyes at me and says, you and your politics! Her attitude is, there’s nothing you can do about it so don’t worry about it. So dismissive and I find that hard to take. If everyone felt like that there would be no demonstrations and they’d just implement Project 2025 without a fight. Once democracy is gone, it’ll be difficult, if not impossible, to get it back. Then what? I can’t believe he’s not been assassinated yet!

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MaryMcC's avatar

My daughter, my friend, my neighbor, even the nurse in my doctor's office all have the same reactions as your sister.

"We can't do anything about it, so why do you worry so much about it, read about it, talk about it?" they say.

I feel so abandoned by the world. And I hate that I am old! I participated in a rally on 4/5. 2,000 people came together in my city in ruby-red Alabama! But I'm not healthy at all; just being out there exhausted me for the next 2 days.

I don't know where all the 'good people' I believed in all my life are! I agree with those of you asking, "why aren't people rioting'' "we need general strikes", "the US just doesn't do things like disappear people to foreign country hellholes forever".

So many people at our rally were senior citizens, so many on subset state their (old) ages.

I went to the post office on Monday worrying there'd be a long line of people mailing tax returns. There were 2 lines; the long one was people getting passports......

Where are the "good guys". Not to come save us, but to come join us! Where are the young people enraged about all that's going on here? I'm afraid we've failed our children. I tbink about the old song from my youth. So many are part of the group "who won't know what they've lost 'til it's gone".

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Rebecca Alvarado's avatar

Anybody have a plan?

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

They're psychopaths.

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Lorraine Richards's avatar

my fear is the they won't get any kinder just more secretive. Perhaps they are less desperate now.

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Dee Williams's avatar

We have had our democracy destroyed by the guy that believes he is a King, and by his “Court” of the Republican Party! The Supreme Court Court has given him the power to believe he is above the law, therefore disregarding the constitution! The Court is no longer following the constitution, they have joined the party of politics and have a new leader that thinks he’s King. I must say, that there are a few in the court that are not complicit and do follow the Constitution. Thank you to the 3 women!

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The Voice Of Reason's avatar

All involved with these illegal deportations need to be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity. This decent, kind young man deserves the chance to live a decent, productive life, not rot in some Salvadoran hell hole. Curse Dump and all who support his reign of terror.

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Kathy's avatar

Everyone in homeland security should be tried and go to jail. Only a small percentage of the first hundreds sent to El Salvador had any criminal record! This is so sick! The "woman that killed her puppy" is the one in charge and she is a sadist. We need an underground org. Someone like David Hogg. To organize protests on the many issues (so many issues). I would love to see a grass roots campayne to raise money to send to Ukraine. 76 million of us voted against trump, think if each of us contributed just a little! It would show support for Ukraine, show the world that decent people still live in the US, and bigly piss trump off.

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SPONGEWORTHY47's avatar

your brain cells are gone...probs from poison shots...

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Rosalind Heid's avatar

I'm sorry, but what the hell does Biden have to do with the shit that trump and his cohorts are pulling???

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Jaime Ramirez's avatar

The Biden administration had the power & duty to prevent Trump from coming back to power by fully prosecuting Trump & his accomplices for their treasonous crimes against the nation, enforcing the Constitution which calls for the expulsion of members of the government engaged in insurrection, sedition & other traitorous crimes, breaking their oaths of office, & prevention from ever assuming government office again; & failing that, to investigate & audit the obviously fraudulent election results by which a notorious cheater cheated his way back to power, & refuse to certify that rigged election. The Biden administration failed to accomplish any of that, & thereby failed in their most important job, to protect the American people from enemies both foreign & domestic.

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S H's avatar

I think you need to brush up on what the three pillars of government can and cannot do.

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AnF's avatar

*Looks at the current administration*

A whole lot more than Biden or Obama ever did despite their promises, that's for sure.

The three pillars of the US government is a sham when they're all just wealthy corporate-picked elites playing a role. Trump is just the latest tool who can be thrown away once the false pretense of 'legality' is thrown away.

Or did you forget he's already deported actual citizens to a death camp with no charges against them and that human trafficking/kidnappings by unknown parties have spike since ICE has been harassing and stealing people off the streets without showing a warrent or allowing any legal process, often deliberately hiding people's whereabouts from judges, lawyers, and family.

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Jaime Ramirez's avatar

There were inexcusable failures & unconscionable treachery from Congress & the judiciary in fulfilling their duties as well, but the DOJ & FBI should've put much higher priority in bringing to justice the planners & organizers of the attempt to keep Trump in power & been much more aggressive in investigating & prosecuting Trump & his co-conspirators & enforcing the Constitution, & Biden & Harris should've called for an investigation & recount or audit of the questionable election results. Trump et al clearly violated the Constitution & rule of law in so many ways & posed a constant risk to national security that was obviously not sufficiently or properly addressed by the authorities, including the Biden administration & there's no way of getting around that or excusing it, & now are suffering the consequences of this grave dereliction of duty.

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AnF's avatar

Apathy and doing nothing in the face of open fascism (Trump and his cohorts spelled out everything they're currently doing before the 'election' with Hillary 2.0) is, in my opinion, the same as aiding them.

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Edie Sadowski's avatar

Biden never sent people to concentration camps!😬

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Jim's avatar

Nothing Rosalind, this clown is just pissed off because his brain - like his foreskin - is crumpled!

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

NOTHING.

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

That’s funny! Bc I had a surgery last Thursday and I am temporarily blind in one eye. But I don’t understand what you mean. Who do you think I am worshiping?

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The Voice Of Reason's avatar

Would fully agree with the culprits being put on trial, and when convicted of the many crimes of which they are categorically guilty, sending them to jail without possibility of parole. As well, confiscating their money and property so it may be used as reparations intended for their victims. However, I am adamantly against any form of violence. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Such acts have never been conducive to a peaceful civil society.

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Edie Sadowski's avatar

So true! Violence begets Violence!

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Christina Hart's avatar

Well, the revolutionary war wasn’t too peaceful and neither was the Civil War. There was violence during the civil rights movement and there was violence connected with the anti-war protests.. sometimes violence is the byproduct of… Nothing is changing and it absolutely must.

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The Voice Of Reason's avatar

Yes, human beings, and principally males, remain highly violent as a group. No doubt about that. What is to be done to alter this disastrous paradigm? In fact, many options exist, but would any prove successful if attempted? No one can say with certainty.

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Gabriele Schubert's avatar

Thank you for making it very clear that Richard Rodriguez was never a gangmember, nor were most of the 200+ men sent to El Salvador (on the basis of that big fat lie by ICE misleader Homan & DHS' Kristi Noem). The USA must get all of these poor men back and give them the due process they deserve. ICE head Homan deserves to spend his life in jail for making America far less great (in fact, terrified under the ruthless control of Trump's Gang of Terrible Liars!)! While Trump is a convicted felon dozens of times over, only 23 of the 215 men sent to El Salvador's notorious gang prison had ANY kind of criminal record. It is likely that NONE WERE GANGMEMBERS; and WE NEED TO KNOW who they are, before we all suffer as ICE follows TRump's orders!

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lisa declan's avatar

send rumpy's cabinet to el salvador and leave them locked up.

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Patrice Curedale's avatar

Yes, the report on 60 Minutes was very eye opening and Important, and is Not getting enough coverage in other msm (esp compared to the billionairs game called “Chicken with Tariffs)

but I look forward to CBS following up with more individual stories like this one because That is how people are moved, with their hearts feeling the logical out come of the Facts, to take action.

vs this ALSO important piece, much more “just the facts”

https://www.google.com/search?q=name+of+awful+prison+in+el+salvador&oq=name+of+awful+prison+in+el+salvador&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRifBTIHCAUQIRifBTIHCAYQIRifBTIHCAcQIRifBTIHCAgQIRiPAjIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCDkxMjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:214a5a37,vid:SSo6skZkY_Q,st:0

But WHAT action can stop the destruction of due process?

The supposed conservatives on here - trolls? bots? Putti? Or real Americans? - actually seem to want everyone but their friends and family and fellow what, White church goers? Incels? Customers? - to be “deported and jailed” or whatever the comments above said?

What can we do to stop that from happening? (sincerely, what’s the plan?)

Because Trump just told Pukele he’ll need at least 5 more CECOTs to hold the, what did he called American citizens in that clip - “homegrowns” he will be sending next. And Erik Prince is gearing up to hunt them all down and sell them like slaves. Truly the man for the job.

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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

In an interview Bukele himself said why would I return a terrorist to the US? Think about that. What, no one is saying Bukele is a bad man? He gets a free pass why?

Think about it.

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James's avatar

We are now living in a white supremacists, christian nationalist dictatorship. We only have the appearance of a republic. The Rump gangster regime does what it wants without any accountability and ignores court rulings. The republican Congress and the republican packed supreme court do as little as possible as a show to protect our citizens. Our Republic is Lost. RESIST everyday.

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Wayne Shaw's avatar

Not as long as we resist, and do it effectively, it isn't.

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Dawn Houghton's avatar

This is unconscionable. We need to bring the Trump regime and Republican Party enablers to justice for these horrific acts against humanity.

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Laura’s Ramblings and Rantings's avatar

Thank you. This tears me up. I wish I had power and could right the wrongs in this stupid world.

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sharon quinn's avatar

It makes me sick to my stomach

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Edie Sadowski's avatar

🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

Me, too.

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Edie Sadowski's avatar

Me too!😬😬😬😬

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Patricia Lees's avatar

Is it possible to get international courts involved? Our Supreme Court is filled weak and corrupt.

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

I’m not a lawyer. Or a constitutional scholar. It just seems like there ought to be a way to get a madman out of the White House.

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S H's avatar

There is. It's called impeachment. Unfortunately our repugnant senators are chickenshit and the SCOTUS thinks the dump is worth defending by giving them a get out of jail free pass.

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Short answer: No.

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

It’s not possible?

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JoshuaRayJongema.Com's avatar

It is possible to get international courts involved, but not possible for those courts to issue any legally-binding orders. They could create diplomatic pressure by highlighting violations but the effect of that can be limited.

Besides that, the US has sanctioned ICC officials this year, began the process of withdrawing from the WHO, destabilized the WTO mission, and recently has signalled intention to defund the UN.

Ultimately there is not much the international courts can actually do in this situation, and even applying pressure or going to the extreme of issuing an an arrest warrant for example would cause unforseeable consequences to the global order.

*I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

That’s a great idea. Is it?

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Rosemary's avatar

Donal Trump is a murderer 😡🤬😡The only human in the world who is allowed to legally send human beings off to be tortured and murdered 😡😡🤬😡My God this country is run by satin the antichrist 😢😢😢GOD IS GONE😢😢😢😢😢😢

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Tammy Mackinnon's avatar

What are you even talking about?

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Tiffany_Florida's avatar

Shut tf up and look at what’s happening NOW

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Randi's avatar

Take your crumpledforeskin somewhere else.

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Randi's avatar

No, because YOU refuse to see the truth. Biden isn't the cause of all America's problems. felon47 is because he wants to rule like his idols, Putin, Orban, & Kim Jung Un, plus he has no respect for the American Constitution! Did he really take the oath or did he just repeat the words so he could be president again? Who knows? If his lips are moving, he's lying!

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Ramirez M's avatar

Let's see the DOG KILLER 😈 can take pictures in Él Salvador and CBS was also there, WHY can't they bring THESE PEOPLE back???? Or am I missing something 🤔🤔🤔🤔

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Philip Kelly's avatar

I understand protecting our national sovereignty, our border and deporting “bad people” but what the Trump administration is doing is really undue process and criminal in its implmentation! Trump, Rubio, Homan, Miller, Biondi and Neom are so lawless that they should be considered war criminals and tried for crimes against humanity!

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Patricia F. Neyman's avatar

Wait and see who

“bad people” is in a few months. It might not even take that long.

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Helge's avatar

It seems that ‘making america great’ entails giving the world a whole new meaning of TYRANT. dtRUMP is doing anything he likes. Criminals such as Gates and Fauci also just do anything they like…and it is a GLOBAL shame that they are also not behind bars. America itself IS a criminal state and dtRUMP is only doing what criminal states do. How does sane america even stand for this. Down Down down down you go like a plane in tailspin.

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and to ADD to this here is a quote from my 1986 avant-garde play “BLOOD” performed at the Community Arts Workshop, Natal Playhouse, the Market Theatre and the Grahamstown festival between 1988 and 1990 South Africa:

“Take away the rules, and we get some IDIOTIC MALE with DELUSIONS OF ADEQUACY, practicing every form of MISCONCEPTION.”

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Angie's avatar

We can negotiate prisoner trades and releases with a hostile (lol) foreign nation like Russia but when Bukele meets with 47, they are unable to reach an agreement so that 47 is fully complying with SCOTUS' ruling? Oh, sorry, they are conducting top secret foreign relations that we cannot bother the executive during. Thanks for waffling, SCOTUS. Once again, giving him just enough wiggle room for plausible deniability. Fuck you, John Roberts. We know your protecting him. SCOTUS has been compromised. Can they not be impeached? Is SCOTUS bulletproof? We already know 47 is.

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Dr B.'s avatar

Our government is out of control...when will the court order ALL OF THEM returned and give them due process. Deporting is one thing but imprisoning is a whole different thing. Only one is getting lots of attention when they all deserve it.

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Angela Sheldon's avatar

Horrifying! We have become Russia but without our own Gulag. We use one in a foreign country.

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Antizionistic's avatar

Exactly, we are no better than Russia now. It is only a matter of time before American citizens to are “accidentally” deported with no trace to this Gulag. Just become enough of an enemy to Trump or to anyone who has bought his loyalty.

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Edie Sadowski's avatar

How about Guatamalo Bay isn't that gulag part of a military base???

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Paulette's avatar

This whole administration needs to be charged with crimes against humanity. This is wrong. We are not at war and this isn’t even our America the land of the free.. I am ashamed and sad.

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Jackie Johnson's avatar

Republican maga, why is this okay in your opinion?

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DaFilosFur's avatar

Oh it is not ok.

But sob story fantasies playing fast and loose with facts is hardly what I use to determine what is a good policy.

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the long warred's avatar

Great 👍🏻

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Dusty Hope's avatar

we have to get him back. we have to go after the republicans, we have to vote them out, we have to. this cannot be allowed.

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Sjn's avatar

These stories literally make me cry and fill me with rage and helplessness. What has become of our country - ruined by these hate filled horrid people. Not Americans imo. The exact opposite.

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RobM's avatar

Lighten up nerd

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Caoimhe's avatar

How dare you! They’re having a normal human response to this horrific story! At least they have a heart, unlike you.

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Elaine Guilday's avatar

Same here

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